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Mike Smart

Interesting approach. As you add more information about the person they become believable. They surpass the "card-board" cut of Ms. or Mr. Prospect.
How do you develop a persona for a buyer that is not part of your universe. I am working on an idea for an Exec Persona. Any thoughts?

Bruce McCarthy

This is all too familiar to lots of people in product marketing and product management, I suspect. And it's one reason I think the split between product management and marketing is important. I've yet to meet a product marketing person who wasn't forced to prioritize helping sales do their jobs. Ultimately, that's the marketing department's mission.

If you also have a product management group working within product development, however, those folks can concentrate on interviewing customers about their problems and such in non-sales situations. As part of the development department, it's understood that their primary mission is to deliver the right products. Sure, product managers get called in on sales calls, too, but we have an excuse for saying no sometimes: "I'm working on the PRD for the next release."

Adele Revella

I had to change Justin's name to Chris -- turns out that Pragmatic has a story about Justin that was causing confusion about this persona.

Mike Wagner

Spot on except I'm 30, single and not named Justin. Other than that, the daily activities and frustration about knowing and wanting to spend more time on strategic/Market activities sound all to familiar.

8R3ND4N

yes, this is real close to my personal experience (30, no kids, new house, engaged, pm background). an improvement might be to expand on what his expectations were as he transitioned from PM to PMM. i get "not spending enough time listening to the market or working on strategic activities," but did he come from a traditional software development PM group? did he do stakeholder interviews? feature sets? business cases? bugs vs. enhancements?

Dave Morse

You nailed it! However, poor Justin will remain in this scenario until upper management "sees the light" and realizes that his time would actually be better spent doing strategic activities. But since his boss, the VP of Sales & Marketing, is under pressure to close deals, the task of assisting sales (with tactical details) will always take precendence over anything "important but not urgent". Just don't take it out on your wife and dog, Justin! :)

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